So I've been seeing the term "quiet quitting" being bandied about recently, but nobody's actually defined it, so I decided to look it up, and...

it's just "doing what's in your contract and what you're being paid to do instead of going above and beyond without getting paid for it and giving way more to the company than they give to you"

and people are genuinely trying to convince workers that this is a bad thing to do

That isn't "quitting". That's the opposite of quitting. That's literally doing your job.

Even a quarter-century ago it was generally considered out of the ordinary to take work home or to stay late at the office, and people who went excessively beyond their job responsibilities were seen as brown-nosers.

Now management is trying to frame doing your job as "quitting"? What sort of happy horseshit is this?

@noelle It's the kind of horseshit used to make employees feel guilty about doing extra work without compensation. They gave it the "quiet quitting" name to make "setting boundaries" and "asking for proper compensation" sound like bad things.

@noelle the same horseshit that led the UK Times to write about how in the wake of energy prices near doubling in the past six months actually you can save money on electricity by going back to the office instead of making tea at home, plebs

@noelle I remember when trade unions used to call it "working to rule". Maybe a bit of "quiet quitting" will earn people some overtime rates instead of "time off in lieu". 🤔​

Not even remotely true... depends on where you worked.

@binder Which is why I said "generally". I'm well aware that there were exceptions.

@noelle I think it was very widespread
the 80s and 90s had tons of hustle culture.

⬆️⬆️⬆️ This! 💯

Also, it’s not like your Company will give any of its customers more than 100% of what they buy either.

It’s high-time employees start treating their job and their relationship with their employer as nothing more than a business relationship.


Have you come across The Gervais Principle by Venkat Rao?

This is the normal behaviour of the successful people on the bottom of the hierarchy, the Checked-Out Losers, while the work-extra-hard-for-the-shiny-brass-ring is the behaviour of the Clueless..

@noelle This came up in my work book club today and I had to explain what it meant. And I'm the manager. We're really trying to get a good grip on life-work balance and discourage the "hustle for your worth" mentality.

@GraySpots I keep seeing "hustle for your worth" and I'm horrified. "Make as much money as possible while doing as little as possible" is the dream, isn't it? Hustling just gets you into the habit of hustling for very, very diminishing returns.

@noelle A friend really struggles with this. She was very inspired early on with the whole Girl Boss movement and just DOING IT ALL. And then her health crashed. She ended up with an extra layer of trauma because her self worth was tied up in her hustle - and she could no longer do that.

I tell her a lot, "You can *do* all the things (these are all tasks that you are capable of), but you can't do *all* the things (there's no way in hell you can do everything)."

@noelle Another random thought on this is that the hustle culture "encourages" you to find a way to monetize hobbies and spawns guilt for enjoying things for the sake of doing them. Like, the goal is to get all the money and just reinvest it in more hustle. At no point is there "permission" in the system to finally relax and not be selling yourself.

@noelle that answers my question from the other day: that's half of what work-to-rule is. the other half is the malicious compliance with every detail of the rulebook in order to slow things down. so there is a difference!

@noelle So, uh, what's the difference between Quiet Quitting and Work-To-Rule, other than intent?

@Vordus @noelle work to rule generally refers to collective industrial action. Quiet quitting sounds like an individualistic and undeclared response.

@noelle there's a term that predates it that means the same thing but without the bullshit capitalist twist to it.

It was a union term called "Work to Rule".

Honestly I quite like the "acting my wage" one.

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